Biden clips Obama, and Obama takes a shot right back.

[Gan]

Trouble on the homefront???

WASHINGTON, DC — Another case of Joe being Joe.

The Delaware Senator took issue with an attack ad from his own side in an interview with CBS, telling Katie Couric that the Obama hit on McCain’s ignorance of computers and technology was “terrible.” The ad paints McCain as out of touch — and all but calls him ancient — but doesn’t mention that the Arizona Senator’s war injuries actually prevent him from using computers for an extended period.

Asked whether he’s disappointed with the tone of the campaign, including the ad that Couric characterized as “making fun of John McCain’s inability to use a computer,” Biden said “I thought that was terrible by the way.
“I didn’t know we did it and if I had anything to do with it, we would have never done it”

But Biden said he didn’t think there was anything intentionally personal in the ad — and argued that it doesn’t sink to the level the McCain ad accusing Obama of voting to teach kindergarteners about sex. The Obama campaign says the bill would help children avoid predators. “Very different in degree,” Biden said.

Still, the McCain campaign pounced on the VP nominee’s comments.
“While the New York Times and other media outlets were silent in the face of Barack Obama’s shameless and dishonorable attack on John Mccain, even Obama’s own running mate has now condemned the ad as terrible,” said spokesman Brian Rogers in a statement. “Barack Obama has brought the sleazy gutter politics of Chicago to our national stage, exposing his call for a ‘new politics’ as a lie and embarrassing even his own running mate with the low road campaign he’s running.”

But as the moment went viral, hitting the internet traffic engine the Drudge Report, Biden revised and extended his remarks in a statement — saying he hadn’t even seen it when he condemned it.

“Having now reviewed the ad, it is even more clear to me that given the disgraceful tenor of Sen McCain’s ads and their persistent falsehoods, his campaign is in no position to criticize,” he said, “especially when they continue to distort Barack’s votes on an issue as personal as keeping kids safe from sexual predators.”

The interview, which aired on Monday, was filmed in Ohio on Thursday.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/22/biden-calls-obama-attack-ad-terrible/

Obama on Biden's Initial Opposition to AIG Bailout: "Joe Should Have Waited"

September 23, 2008 9:41 AM
"What has been clear during this entire past ten days is John McCain has not had clarity and a grasp on the situation," Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told NBC's Matt Lauer in an interview that ran this morning.

Lauer was talking about how Obama hit Sen. McCain for flip-flopping on the AIG bailout -- saying he opposed it one day then announce he supported it the next day.

But, as Lauer pointed out, scarcely three minutes after McCain said he opposed the AIG bailout last week, "in an interview with Meredith Vieira, Joe Biden, your running mate was asked the exact same question, 'should the federal government bailout AIG?' And he said, 'No, the federal government should not bailout AIG.'" "And I think that in that situation," Obama said, "I think Joe should have waited as well."

"But it's the kind of thing that drives people crazy about politics," Lauer said. "It sounds like you were trying to score some political points against John McCain using his words, when your own running mate had used very similar words."

"No, hold on a second Matt," Obama said. "I think what drives people crazy about politics is the fact that somebody like John McCain who for 26 years has been an advocate for deregulation, for 26 years has said the market is king and then starts going out there suggesting somehow that he's a populist who's been railing against Wall Street and regulation -- that's what drives people crazy about politics."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/obama-on-bidens.html

[Daniel]

Oh no. Someone having a disagreement. God forbid.

[Gan]

Oh no. Someone having a disagreement. God forbid.

In the media no less.

Great display of unity of message and compatibility on your ticket.

[Gan]

Unfortunately Obama picked someone he can occasionally disagree with as opposed to Sarah Palin that will only say whatever the campaign strategist can cook up.

Right, because we all know there is no campaign strategist working behind the scenes in the Obama camp...

Are you for real?

[Moist Happenings]

I love the fact that he later retracts his statement condemning the ad saying "I hadn't even seen it when I condemned it."

Way to go Biden. Head up your ass and still talking, and then admitting it no less.

[AnticorRifling]

You say "way to show unity." I say an identical, completely in agreement running mate makes no sense to a campaign.. it does not add anything at all to the ticket.

Yeah stability is something that would be crazy to have at the top tiers...

I want a VP that will fill the shoes of the president should something happen. I vote for the president, I don't vote for the VP. I don't want something to happen and then my vote nulled by a complete change in ideals/policy/etc.

[Gan]

Have you seen Sarah come out and say much at all to the press? She spoke at the convention and two interviews. She may not be otherwise in the national spotlight like the other 3 are as senators, but she basically only comes out to spew the GOP platform when necessary.

I prefer an independent mind like Biden's that can actually disagree with his running mate.. Why else would someone like Obama pick Biden if not to consider his greater experience?

You say "way to show unity." I say an identical, completely in agreement running mate makes no sense to a campaign.. it does not add anything at all to the ticket.

And its also considered a logical point that Palin remain low key with all the attacks being levied against her.

So you also prefer an independent mind like McCain too right?

And wait, isnt Palin on record for being of an independent mind as well for unseating a like party corrupt incumbent?

(wait for it)

And yes, I say way to show unity, planning, and cohesiveness when both of your main candidates are so disorganized and not in touch with each others viewpoints on issues and stances.

I think Obama made the perfect choice in picking Biden.

[Faent]

Right, because we all know there is no campaign strategist working behind the scenes in the Obama camp... Are you for real?

Everybody with half a brain knows that McCain and Palin are primarily shills for their spokestroll campain managers. Obama can, and often does, think and talk for himself. He even drafts some of his own speeches. There is almost a direct linkage between the shit coming out of McCain's mouth and what his puppetmasters order him to say. That linkage is corrupted only by McCain's pathetic memory.

[Gan]

Everybody with half a brain knows that McCain and Palin are primarily shills for their spokestroll campain managers. Obama can, and often does, think and talk for himself. He even drafts some of his own speeches. There is almost a direct linkage between the shit coming out of McCain's mouth and what his puppetmasters order him to say. That linkage is corrupted only by McCain's pathetic memory.

LOL

I quoted this for posterity.

Because the exact thing is being said about the Obama campaign and the DNC leadership 'handling' it.

[Gan]

I prefer an independent mind like McCain as a republican compared to some of the more hardcore republicans.. yes. But I don't see what you're calling as unity or cohesiveness so much as a lack of backbone. I do not value a candidate who has to run everything by his daddy before he can say anything.

As a VP, you should be either complimenting each other's strengths (Biden doesn't) OR making up for each other's weaknesses (which Biden does). What exactly did Sarah bring to the GOP ticket? A vagina and a gun? Lol? Biden has value because he's not just Obama's lapdog. He brings the experience to counsel Obama in areas he's weak in. He wouldn't be doing his job or need to do any job if Obama had all the right answers right off the bat.

So you dont think Palin compliments McCain's campaign at all?

Can you give some examples of what you think Obama is weak in?

Its obvious that your opinion is shaped by your perception. You'll have to excuse some of is if we suggest that your perception is rather skewed.